Saturday, June 14, 2008

Landslides: the Veepstakes

Let's talk Vice Presidents. Here are some of my thoughts on how the veepstakes could produce a landslide win for the candidates.

If Barack Obama wants to win in a landslide, there is one man he could choose as his running mate. Ready?

Ret. General and former Secretary of State Colin Powell. Seriously.

Here's what Powell would bring to the ticket:
- Much needed gravitas.
- Washington experience.
- Foreign policy experience.
- Military experience.
- Bipartisanship that goes beyond rhetoric.

But ... but ... but ... isn't Powell a Republican? Yes. That's kind of the point.

Would America vote for two black men? The people who wouldn't vote for two black men wouldn't vote for one black man.

Isn't Powell too aligned with the Bush administration? It was one of the worst kept secrets of Bush's first term that Powell was a bad fit with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Bolton. Pairing with Obama would allow him to reestablish himself as the independent that most Americans think he is.

In the last 20 years, Colin Powell could have been President any time he wanted to be. Few others are as nationally liked as he is.


If John McCain wants to win in a landslide, he could choose Ronald Reagan as his ... oh wait. Nevermind.


H said...

They would probably get my vote, and I agree that Collin Powell could have won anytime in the recent future. They reason he hasn't run..... according to interviews..... his wife won't let him.

Anonymous said...

IMHO, Barack needs the following in a VP to have a chance:
>White conservative male
>Decorated war veteran
>Public sector experience
Who fits this description? Senator Jim Webb

As for John McCain, he needs the following in a VP to have a sporting chance:
>Strong on the economy
>Private sector experience
Who fits this description? Mitt Romney

Robb said...

Did you just call Jim Webb a conservative?

Anonymous said...

My bad. Should have noted Webb is more conservative than Guillani. Webb is Anti-fag and pro-gun rights. He has 2 of 3 "Key" conservative areas covered. I don't agree with his abortion stance though. He does get bonus points for being a former Marine and part of the Reagan Administration. Semper Fi brother Webb

Robb said...

Anonymous, sometimes you make it very difficult to have meaningful conversations.

Robb said...

Anonymous, you know that Jim Webb is on his third marriage and is pro-gay-rights like Rudy is, don't you?

Anonymous said...

The sources that I sought out stated he was against queer marriage. If he supports this agenda he needs to be severly beaten with a newspaper upside the head. I don't know of any jar head that I served with that supported this. As for his three marriages, unfortunately this happens to most with careers in the military....Yea.. Ok you convinced me that Webb is a queer lovin liberal that supports gun rights.

Robb said...

Anonymous, do you know that the way you speak about other people made in the image of God is really offensive? I don't know if you care about this, but it doesn't help to further your argument.

Anonymous said...

Ahh "Made in the image of God". You are right, we were made in he image of God. But then Adam fell and we all were sold to our Master Satan. But wait, Christ came and offered himself up to all to buy us back if we believe in him. I believe we were made in his image, past tense, prior to mankinds fall. Good and Evil cannot be one in the same, that is contradictory. Ok enough coaching. Your point is well taken, from a politically correct standpoint of view the use of fag or queer can be hurtful. How about instead of queer we choose a more politically correct word such as alternative?

Should we support alternative marriage or lifestyle? Does the Bible teach that the last days will be the same as the days of Noah? In Noah's time was the alternative lifestyle the norm? Should we as Christians in this age accept the same? Hmmm

Robb said...

Anonymous, you are convinced that homosexuality is wrong. Aren't you also convinced that rudeness is wrong? How about unkindness? Is being ungracious or impolite wrong?

Anonymous said...

Yes I agree 100% rudeness, being unpolite is not right. But how is calling a spade a spade wrong? If I were gay, and someone called me a fag would it offend me? Absolutely not. Does the word fag or queer offend you? Does your church accept this behavior? Did not your God bring his wrath against Sodom and Gommorah for this? Do you feel this was unjust?

Your argument to everything is always about being gracious and loving. What about the truth? Is not the telling the truth one of the 10 commandments? Hmmm

Matthew said...

"Did not your God bring his wrath against Sodom and Gommorah for this?"

Well, possibly over that and a few other things as well. Just goes to show that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

I'm going to have to start quoting The Bible now. You're making me do this, Anonymous.

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."--Ezekiel 16:49-50

Seems to me that in addition to the sins of sexual immorality (including fornication, beastiality [depends on how you interpret that "lusting after strange flesh" bit in Jude 1:7], and rape in addition to homosexuality) which are discussed elsewhere, Sodom and Gomorrah were also destroyed for being arrogant, gluttonous, indifferent to the needs of others and not helping the poor, and lacking hospitality. The Lord wasn't wrathful with Sodom and Gomorrah just over homosexuality (in fact, I find it notable that Ezekiel mentions their not helping the poor and needy before talking about the "detestable things", which might not even refer to homosexuality in this particular instance)--He was wrathful with them because they did everything they could wrong.

So, Anonymous, are you as hateful towards the gluttonous and uncharitable as you are towards the homosexuals? Seems like it's only fair. Hmmm? Eh? Hmmm? Eh? Hmm? Hmm? Hmm? Eh? Hmmmmmmm? Hmm? Eh? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? etc.

I'm not saying that homosexuality isn't a sin before God, but I don't see that your hatred and contempt of homosexuals (clearly revealed by your insistent use of the perjoratives "queer" and "fag")is much of an improvement over their sins. God expects us to hate sin, but he reserves it for Himself to condemn the sinner. He does not make it our place to do so. How does the Bible say we are supposed to live with our fellow sinners, and what does it say about hating people? Let's see...

"He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes." I John 2:10-11

Oh wait--I know--you're going say, "no homosexual is my brother." Fine. Let's say homosexuals are your enemies. Let's see what the Bible says about how you're supposed to live with your enemies.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
Matthew 5:43-48

Whether you consider homosexuals your brothers or your enemies (and before you bring it up, I'm NOT saying you're supposed to condone their sins), you're supposed to love and pray for them--do you? God wants you to. He plainly says what He wants--are you obeying His Word?

And as for telling the truth: it is possible (Lord knows I don't do it very well myself, but it is possible...) to tell people the truth in a "gracious and loving manner" (there's certainly more support for this in the Bible than there is support for being obnoxious) without being all hateful, pompous, and self-righteous about it.

Robb said...

Matthew's in the house.

H said...

You go Matthew!!!

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Robb said...

Anonymous, sorry. I had to remove your comment. The Grenz is PG13, sometimes R, but not NC17.